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bullet Topic: I don't like "Garden Rooms"
    Posted: Jun-11-2010 at 10:38pm
I read an article today in "Fine Gardening" magazine, Feb. 2010 issue, entitled "Livin up Your Long Border", by Jimmy Williams. It made me realize how much I like my own long borders, going all around my fence line, borrowing from the scenery around around me, and giving me the long vistas I like. It's not chopped up into "Garden Rooms", which seem to be all the garden designers talk about now days. I get tired of the all the small spaces if I have to spend too much time indoors, I crave the long view. Even my eyes get tired of it. If "The Great Room" is the style for indoor spaces, why can't we do it outside too?
Another point I'd also like to make is that, living the Pacific Northwest like I do, I really don't spend a lot of time just sitting in the garden. The weather is cool and wet most of the year, I work full time, I have a family, and there are other things I like to do in our short summer too. Just sitting is rare. So I think it is important to concentrate on the views out the windows, on the way to the car, and things like that. We're starting to experiment on lighting the garden at night, because I think the long, dark winter would be nicer with some bright accents in it.   


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bullet Posted: Jun-12-2010 at 6:22am
Amen. Following the latest trend and "keeping up with the Jones'" never rang my bell.

Can't keep the glare off the big screen either.

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bullet Posted: Jun-12-2010 at 11:58am
yeah!!! I am with you. I dont have time for rooms, because the borders keep me busy. Someday when I am rich and willing to let someone else work in my borders, they can try to convince me. Not highly likely 'til I'm 85.
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bullet Posted: Jun-12-2010 at 3:14pm
I like garden rooms. I love sitting in my garden too. The one great things that garden rooms can do is make a small space look bigger. I know that sounds weird, but it does give the illusion of more space. Although my garden has not been stellar the last few years, I still like to take time to sit in the garden when it is warm, and relax. Time enough for being indoors during the dark time of the year.

Please don't hate me.
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bullet Posted: Jun-13-2010 at 7:35am
I think it's fine if you like garden rooms. Actually, part of my back yard is almost like a garden room because of the trees and structures surrounding it, and that is where the outdoor furniture is at, the ones I never get to sit in. As much as I'd like to, I'm just not at a stage of life where I do much sitting, or get time to be on the computer, which is why I haven't posted much lately. And I still can't change the weather, but I do wish for an enclosed sumroom some day
   This post is my way of saying that I think I was feeling my garden was design deficient, but even if I didn't consciously design it, it is in a way, and it's my way, not the current trend towards garden rooms, and I'm happy with it.
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bullet Posted: Jun-13-2010 at 11:55am
Seems to me that garden rooms have their place. Just not in my garden.

How do you dust? How do you vaccum? And isn't polishing those mirrored balls a challenge?

Just joshing, of course. I use my hose for dusting and my leaf blower for cleaning my shop. Doesn't everyone???

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bullet Posted: Jun-13-2010 at 1:51pm
Fern, I hope you get more time to sit in the garden. I know what you mean about raising a family, life can get so hectic. Although my child is grown and gone, I sometimes wish I had more time from school and work keeping me busy, but I do have more me time in this stage of my life.

Garden design is all about what you like and vistas are about design too. It might be that designers are focusing on rooms, because so many properties are small, especially in urban areas which designers maybe where designers do most of their work. But maybe we are talking about two different things. Like mostly structure and little plants kind of garden rooms?

My idea of a garden room is being surrounded by plants. Or a small sitting area off to the side of the garden. Garden rooms have been around a long time, and I like the idea of outdoor rooms as extensions of the house. I love being outdoors as much as possible, so having a cozy outdoor room on the deck or tucked away in the corner of the property to me is my way of enjoying the garden, not just being a slave to it.

TVs in the garden seems so funny. Dusting the garden? Now I know why I don't have mirror balls--another item to polish? Groan...

Edited by DebbieTT - Jun-13-2010 at 1:54pm
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bullet Posted: Jun-13-2010 at 9:54pm
If you have the space, some vistas and at least one little cozy area to sit in is kind of nice, I think.

My front yard is mostly used for going to and from the house, but it has a nice bench in it under a tree so that looking at it you have the sense of a place that you could be in. And I designed it so it would be a nice view from the dining room. My husband spends most of his waking hours at the dining room table when he is home, reading, writing or eating.

The backyard has a small shade garden and sitting area at the base of the deck stairs, and I go back and forth between the covered deck and the shade garden depending on the weather, on the rare occasions I sit by myself out there. There is a big planting bed where most of the cutting flowers and vegetables are growing, and it is designed to look good from up on the deck and as you walk through it.

Also the lower backyard is planted to be seen both from a distance and up close. It is lawn surrounded by trees and shrub borders, with littler things tucked in between.

You should plant what you like and arrange it how you (and the plants) like, and not worry about terminology. Some perfectly good gardens get junked up with trendy language. Make it your own to enjoy, whatever that may mean to you. It is not a fashion contest; it is a relationship between you and the out-of-doors.
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bullet Posted: Jun-14-2010 at 10:34am
One more thing...I've been watching a new subdivision slowly build out a block from us. Houses that used to be $500k are now $300k...and the only garden they might have would have to be a garden "closet" at 14 by 14 feet.

Why isn't a garden "room" called a glade or copse or some other name to distinguish it from an indoor room?

Ooooppps, that's two things. Oh well...

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bullet Posted: Jun-14-2010 at 11:07am
Originally posted by tommyb

One more thing...I've been watching a new subdivision slowly build out a block from us. Houses that used to be $500k are now $300k...and the only garden they might have would have to be a garden "closet" at 14 by 14 feet.


That's one design trend I'll never understand. People are different I suppose and many people don't like "yard work". But I would feel so clostraphobic in a small yard, much more so than in a small house.

I have a 1950's typical suburban lot. Just right for me, small enough that the back yard is one large "room" and that's the way I like it.
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bullet Posted: Jun-14-2010 at 12:53pm
For me I like hidden areas of the garden, so as I walk through it on the paths, the garden is slowly revealed. I have a hidden garden room up in the corner of my front garden. You have to duck under the bows of an apple tree and walk a small path to it.

There is a little arbor and a bench and a fountain I made out of tiny terra cotta pots fashioned like a rain chain. To sit there in the cozy little room surrounded by plants, watching the critters come and go is my idea of heaven. And no one knows you are nestled in a secret little garden room, until they duck under the apple tree branches and walk down the path.

Here are pictures of it soon after it was made in 2003. It is since grown in with lots of plants such as fatshedera, our native rhodie, heathers and now large viburnums and small epimediums and all shaded with a photinia tree that is smothered by Clematis spooneri. I have some revamping of the space to do this year and a repaint.





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bullet Posted: Jun-14-2010 at 1:18pm
With all of the green dense trees along the highways and roads,one could reasonably consider them as hallways to the home garden rooms. Large or small.
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bullet Posted: Jun-14-2010 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by tommyb

One more thing...I've been watching a new subdivision slowly build out a block from us. Houses that used to be $500k are now $300k...and the only garden they might have would have to be a garden "closet" at 14 by 14 feet.


Isn't that why they call them a "yard"? Three feet around all sides of the house?
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bullet Posted: Jun-14-2010 at 5:24pm
Tommy, I like the idea of a garden glade or copse instead a "garden room". Good term there.

I agree with Deb. I sit in my gardens all the time. I really like secret gardens and stroll gardens where you can travel along a path and come to secret hiding places to sit and enjoy the critters and the plants. Nothing better than enjoying an early morning in the garden with a cup of coffee.

I find that having a covered sitting area with paths made out of stone or gravel that allow you to traverse the garden in the rain goes along way to spending more time in the garden, just sitting or strolling. Grass paths definitely are not as nice to travel on in the rain.

Yeah, SE, I just don't get why people want to live on these dinky 25X100 ft. lots with these huge houses that loom over a tiny little plot of grass....
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bullet Posted: Jun-14-2010 at 5:29pm
LOL, Chris and Tommy!

Debbie, I've always loved that area of your garden.

I like vistas but I also like creating cozy spaces in my garden. It's like having my garden wrap its arms around me, like a big, leafy hug. (Not so much fun when it's a rose, though, LOL.)
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bullet Posted: Jun-15-2010 at 8:52am
I've got vistas and I've got garden rooms. Love both. Although I do tire at times of doing the 1/4 acre of lawn but it IS a good workout and the robins love to forage on the open grass and violet green swallows need that open space as well. Both are nesting close by. Can't use power equipment due to the vibration so it's all done with a push mower and domestic geese. That's when I take a break with a book in the little garden off the back patio surrounded by wood fencing. Bordered with Epimediums, Japanese maples, fuschias and miniature roses. Potted bulbs running up the stairs to the upper deck. Hummingbirds visiting (new this week!!). Juncos popping in and out of the potted lilacs and katsuras waiting to go in the ground 'somewhere'. Lots of baby juncos this year. I wouldn't notice if I didn't have a small, intimate garden space where I relax and study what's what.
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bullet Posted: Jun-16-2010 at 4:21pm
It's good to hear all the different styles that people have. I guess the thing I really don't like is the over- designed garden where it looks like a garden designer has told them "This is the way it's supposed to be done" and they go along with it, whether it fits their needs or style or not.
I do like the idea of a covered area and gravel walkways for wet weather. No money or time for that right now, but maybe someday. A comfortable chair with truly weather proof cushions and a laptop would be awfully nice too!
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bullet Posted: Jun-16-2010 at 8:12pm
I'm with you on the comfy chair, add a spot of tea and I'm in heaven.
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